Would you be able to forgive someone that you loved if they acted like Peter Houghton? What requires forgiveness? What can’t be forgiven?
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if peter was my friend and i saw that he started to change and act differently then he brought in a gun i would forgive him because i knew that he was probably going through something that bothered him.But if he was perfectlt normal and came into school and killed kids than i probably still would hgave to give him some sympathy but it would take me a verrrrryy long time before that would happpen.
It depends on the love. If its my sister who does it i would be more forgiving although it would take a while. If it were a boyfriend or something they would be out of my life for good. I dont need someone like that in my life especially if they dont need to be. My sister would have to earn my forgivness but she is still my sister. -Jenna-
i dont kow if i would be able to forgive him kowing wat he did to my fellow classmates. and to be totally honest if he brought a gun into school i would risk my life to save everyone else, that would be a risk i would be willing to take. but if he was having a hrd time and he brought a gun in to school id have to help him and and tell him everything would be alright but if that happend and he was fine i agree with jess but not totally i probably wouldnt be able to forgive him.
I'm not sure I mean if I really loved the person that did it yes I can forgive them, but if I barely know the kid I don't know. It would be hard and if he or she killed my friends that would be even worse.I think that small fights and arguments diverse immediate forgiveness, but serious cases like killing your friends might take a while. The only things I can see that shouldn't be forgiven would be if you got raped, tortured, or just extremely insane cruelty. :)MATT(:
I think that wouldn't forgive him right away, but after awhile I think I would forgive him. Because I think that I would start to think about all the things that Peter went through to get to that point. I think that I would feel partly responsible beacuse even if I didn't make fun of Peter, if I didn't do anything. Because sometimes not doing anything is just as bad. Like, no one was his friend, no one was nice to him and I think that pushed him to doing what he did too. I really like what you said, Matt. ~Jules :) tweet :)
I would probably forgive my friend because if they had a problem, they could have handeled it differently, but like Peter, he didn't he just went straight to violence, so I would most likely forgive my friend. To me forgivness would mean alot to Peter in his situation. What requires forgivness???? Ummm that is sort of a difficult question to answer, but I have to say that people who are like peter may require it to help them. Situations like hard times when someone does something wrong, something they aren't suppost to do but a little forgivness might help them a bit. What can't be forgiven are things like murders, violence, genocides, rapes(i don't like that word) and many other situations that are that violent. So in a way Peter should be forgiven but not and since he was the victim through bullying it wasn't his complete fault. I think that the others helped out for Peter to get to that point, but what he did was wrong and he shouldn't be forgiven for the murders. ~Theresa
I like what everyone said about not being able to forgive right away. It depends, I have no idea what i would do if i was in that situation. It's hard to say. It also depends on how close i am with the person, but it would take a while for me to possibly forgive. But I could never forget.
I think that i would forgive my friend, but it would take awhile for me to be able to actually forgive that person. Also, it would depend on how much that friend ment to me. like if i was so close to them and i really loved them, i think it would be different. just because it would take so many hurtfull things done to you to get to that point of killing your classmates. so i would forgive, but never forget.
If one of my family members or a very close friend did that then i would forgive them and help them through it. If it were another person i dont hang out with regularly i most likely would not forgive them. For me to forgive someone they would have to have some kind of relation with me. But if he/she killed one of my friends or even injured them i would never be able to forgive them. -ROBERT-
i wouldent forgive them but the i think that stealing, lieing, and maybe other things..but killing speaking from a religous term it an unforgiveable sin and thats how i feel about it...i would help them through it and do what i can to make them better but forgiveing them isent an option if they kill not 1..not 2..but ten people
I really like what you said Austin. I'm not sure if id be able to forgive him for taking the lives if ten students. If I knew Peter I would try to help him make the situation better before he got to the point of bringing a gun into school.
That is a very good question. And I can honestly say that I am stumped on this one. I think that I would want to forgive them. But I have no idea if I actually could or not.
If peter's mind is made up about commiting a mass murder then using your words isn't really of much use and thats when physical power comes into play. What requires forgivness is for Peter to know that what he did was wrong and that what he though was a "solution" really wasn't and didn't benefit him in anyway, if he doesn't realize this then i definitely wouldn't forgive him.
I really liked what austin said. I think that it would be really hard for me to forgive them after taking the lives of 10 human beings. 10 of my classmates and 10 of my friends. so it would be really hard for me, but if it was one of my friends i think i would probably forgive them just so that i could ask "why?" ~Autumn <33 tweet :)
now that i think about it if i wasnt friends with peter than i would forgive him probably more easily than i would if he was my friends.In this one One Tree Hill episode this one girl says "why is it so easy to forgive the ones you dont know,but so hard to forgive the ones you love?" and i really donbt know the answer to that question but i know that that quote is 100% true
i think i would forgive peter. if anything i feel bad for peter. its not that he wanted to do it, its like he had to do it. he didnt do anything wrong. then the hockey kids go and push him around make hm feel like hes garbage.then hes told by adults, the ones who are supposed to stop it, tell him hes the one who needs to change. so he gets picked on then get punished by his parents for not fighting back. he doesnt stand a chance against drew or any of them. i know alot of people may disagree with me but i think peter didnt have a choice. with no one to help him. no one to just put an arm around his shoulder tell him its alright. hes practically not accepted by his mom. the kid had no where else to turn but to kill them. peter doesnt deserve to be treated like this, but unforchinently has to face the consequences -Haas.
I think If I loved someone as much as Lacy loved Peter I could forgive.I think it would take time and patiance(like Tyler said) and trust rebuilding. It would be easier to forgive if the person who commited the act was making an effort. Leah O.
i would definetly be able to forgive someone i love if they acted like peter. The main requirment to forgiveness is trust. You cant forgive someone you dont trust. something i dont think can be forgiven is breaking someone's trust. after one breaks another's trust i do not believe it can be regained. and if it is regained it would have to take time. d@n 0.
i would defintely forgive somebody no matter what! but it also depends on the person. i've been through alot of fights with people and i'll always forgive them but... i'll never forget. -Katiee(:
I think it all depends on the circumstances. It doesn't matter if I love someone or not, I could easily forgive my mortal enemy (not that I have one). Every action, no matter what it is, requires forgiveness. We may not realize it, but even when someone does something nice for someone else, for example, someone lets me borrow a pencil, it requires forgiveness. We just call this aprecciation. And even if you don't appreciate something, it's still forgiving. It's like saying, "Whatever. I don't really want this or need this, but thanks anyway." The one thing I could never forgive is action without reason. You don't just go killing people you don't even know. When I think about it, it makes sense to me what Peter did. Peter was ripped down by his peers, and was treated like some rodent infestation. Whatever he saw on his computer screen pushed him off the cliff. He had a reason to commit murder, (even if it was the wrong thing to do,) and anyone who made fun of him has as much blame to take as he does for what happened at Sterling.
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if peter was my friend and i saw that he started to change and act differently then he brought in a gun i would forgive him because i knew that he was probably going through something that bothered him.But if he was perfectlt normal and came into school and killed kids than i probably still would hgave to give him some sympathy but it would take me a verrrrryy long time before that would happpen.
-jessica packard
It depends on the love. If its my sister who does it i would be more forgiving although it would take a while. If it were a boyfriend or something they would be out of my life for good. I dont need someone like that in my life especially if they dont need to be. My sister would have to earn my forgivness but she is still my sister.
-Jenna-
i dont kow if i would be able to forgive him kowing wat he did to my fellow classmates. and to be totally honest if he brought a gun into school i would risk my life to save everyone else, that would be a risk i would be willing to take. but if he was having a hrd time and he brought a gun in to school id have to help him and and tell him everything would be alright but if that happend and he was fine i agree with jess but not totally i probably wouldnt be able to forgive him.
-austin
I'm not sure I mean if I really loved the person that did it yes I can forgive them, but if I barely know the kid I don't know. It would be hard and if he or she killed my friends that would be even worse.I think that small fights and arguments diverse immediate forgiveness, but serious cases like killing your friends might take a while. The only things I can see that shouldn't be forgiven would be if you got raped, tortured, or just extremely insane cruelty. :)MATT(:
I think that wouldn't forgive him right away, but after awhile I think I would forgive him. Because I think that I would start to think about all the things that Peter went through to get to that point. I think that I would feel partly responsible beacuse even if I didn't make fun of Peter, if I didn't do anything. Because sometimes not doing anything is just as bad. Like, no one was his friend, no one was nice to him and I think that pushed him to doing what he did too.
I really like what you said, Matt.
~Jules :)
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I would probably forgive my friend because if they had a problem, they could have handeled it differently, but like Peter, he didn't he just went straight to violence, so I would most likely forgive my friend. To me forgivness would mean alot to Peter in his situation. What requires forgivness???? Ummm that is sort of a difficult question to answer, but I have to say that people who are like peter may require it to help them. Situations like hard times when someone does something wrong, something they aren't suppost to do but a little forgivness might help them a bit. What can't be forgiven are things like murders, violence, genocides, rapes(i don't like that word) and many other situations that are that violent. So in a way Peter should be forgiven but not and since he was the victim through bullying it wasn't his complete fault. I think that the others helped out for Peter to get to that point, but what he did was wrong and he shouldn't be forgiven for the murders.
~Theresa
I like what everyone said about not being able to forgive right away. It depends, I have no idea what i would do if i was in that situation. It's hard to say. It also depends on how close i am with the person, but it would take a while for me to possibly forgive. But I could never forget.
~HaLeY :]
I think that i would forgive my friend, but it would take awhile for me to be able to actually forgive that person. Also, it would depend on how much that friend ment to me. like if i was so close to them and i really loved them, i think it would be different. just because it would take so many hurtfull things done to you to get to that point of killing your classmates. so i would forgive, but never forget.
*bridget*
If one of my family members or a very close friend did that then i would forgive them and help them through it. If it were another person i dont hang out with regularly i most likely would not forgive them. For me to forgive someone they would have to have some kind of relation with me. But if he/she killed one of my friends or even injured them i would never be able to forgive them.
-ROBERT-
i wouldent forgive them but the i think that stealing, lieing, and maybe other things..but killing speaking from a religous term it an unforgiveable sin and thats how i feel about it...i would help them through it and do what i can to make them better but forgiveing them isent an option if they kill not 1..not 2..but ten people
John Magyar
Austin that's very nice that you said you would risk your life for your classmates.
Leah O.:)
I really like what you said Austin. I'm not sure if id be able to forgive him for taking the lives if ten students. If I knew Peter I would try to help him make the situation better before he got to the point of bringing a gun into school.
emilee(:
That is a very good question. And I can honestly say that I am stumped on this one. I think that I would want to forgive them. But I have no idea if I actually could or not.
HANES
If peter's mind is made up about commiting a mass murder then using your words isn't really of much use and thats when physical power comes into play. What requires forgivness is for Peter to know that what he did was wrong and that what he though was a "solution" really wasn't and didn't benefit him in anyway, if he doesn't realize this then i definitely wouldn't forgive him.
-Alec
I really liked what austin said. I think that it would be really hard for me to forgive them after taking the lives of 10 human beings. 10 of my classmates and 10 of my friends. so it would be really hard for me, but if it was one of my friends i think i would probably forgive them just so that i could ask "why?"
~Autumn <33
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now that i think about it if i wasnt friends with peter than i would forgive him probably more easily than i would if he was my friends.In this one One Tree Hill episode this one girl says "why is it so easy to forgive the ones you dont know,but so hard to forgive the ones you love?"
and i really donbt know the answer to that question but i know that that quote is 100% true
-jessica packard
i think i could forgive them eventually, because patience is key in forgiveness. Its like the saying time heals all wounds.
-Tyler
i think i would forgive peter. if anything i feel bad for peter. its not that he wanted to do it, its like he had to do it. he didnt do anything wrong. then the hockey kids go and push him around make hm feel like hes garbage.then hes told by adults, the ones who are supposed to stop it, tell him hes the one who needs to change. so he gets picked on then get punished by his parents for not fighting back. he doesnt stand a chance against drew or any of them. i know alot of people may disagree with me but i think peter didnt have a choice. with no one to help him. no one to just put an arm around his shoulder tell him its alright. hes practically not accepted by his mom. the kid had no where else to turn but to kill them. peter doesnt deserve to be treated like this, but unforchinently has to face the consequences
-Haas.
I think If I loved someone as much as Lacy loved Peter I could forgive.I think it would take time and patiance(like Tyler said) and trust rebuilding. It would be easier to forgive if the person who commited the act was making an effort.
Leah O.
i would definetly be able to forgive someone i love if they acted like peter. The main requirment to forgiveness is trust. You cant forgive someone you dont trust. something i dont think can be forgiven is breaking someone's trust. after one breaks another's trust i do not believe it can be regained. and if it is regained it would have to take time.
d@n 0.
i would defintely forgive somebody no matter what!
but it also depends on the person. i've been through alot of fights with people and i'll always forgive them but... i'll never forget.
-Katiee(:
I think it all depends on the circumstances. It doesn't matter if I love someone or not, I could easily forgive my mortal enemy (not that I have one). Every action, no matter what it is, requires forgiveness. We may not realize it, but even when someone does something nice for someone else, for example, someone lets me borrow a pencil, it requires forgiveness. We just call this aprecciation. And even if you don't appreciate something, it's still forgiving. It's like saying, "Whatever. I don't really want this or need this, but thanks anyway." The one thing I could never forgive is action without reason. You don't just go killing people you don't even know. When I think about it, it makes sense to me what Peter did. Peter was ripped down by his peers, and was treated like some rodent infestation. Whatever he saw on his computer screen pushed him off the cliff. He had a reason to commit murder, (even if it was the wrong thing to do,) and anyone who made fun of him has as much blame to take as he does for what happened at Sterling.
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